Finance

BenFranklinEye

A Whole New World

So, I’m 22 years old right now and I recently have gained a lot of interest in personal finance. I grew up in a very money-conscious household. My mom was always saving for different things and trying to be prepared for anything that could happen. We weren’t rich, but my sister and I never missed out on anything due to a lack of money.

Up until August 2018, I was a spender. I didn’t have a plan. I wasn’t in credit card debt or anything, but I wasn’t saving or investing. Then, something happened and I’m not really sure how. I started watching some Dave Ramsey videos on YouTube. I had heard of Dave’s teachings before but never looked into them until this time. After hearing his opinions on saving and investing, I was energized. The thought of being a millionaire after I retire threw me through a loop. I couldn’t believe how easy the math seemed. Literally, just open a Roth IRA and fully fund it throughout your life and boom. Compounding interest is a remarkable thing.

Fast forward about a month and I’ve done a lot more research, asked a lot of questions, and made several moves. I’ve laid the groundwork for a successful future. I want to continue to learn more and grow each day.

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Live & Die by the Roth

I’ve gotten into this whole finance thing a little bit now, to say the least. I’m very interested in the subject and I love money. From my research in IRAs over the past couple months, I have one burning question that I haven’t been able to get a straight answer to: Why would anyone use a Traditional IRA over a Roth IRA?

Now, under certain circumstances, I’m sure there might be a reason to do so. However, I’m obviously most familiar with my personal situation, so I’m going to base a scenario off something in line with that.

The Scenario

I’ll use the same scenario to compare a Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA.

Start Age: 22
End Age: 67
Initial Amount: $0
Annual Deposit: $5,500
Average Return: 10%

Given these numbers, over 45 years my deposits would total $247,320 (6% of account total).

Those deposits would have made interest of $4,098,890 (94% of account total).

Add those two numbers together and we get the account total $4,346,210.

Let’s Do Some Math

Traditional IRA

In a Traditional IRA, you get a tax break on the contribution amount at the time you deposit it, but then you pay taxes on the account total when you withdraw later down the road. Basically meaning you save on taxes now, but then have to pay them later.

So, let’s fast forward to withdrawing time. Let’s take that account total from above $4,346,210 and assume the best case scenario given today’s tax brackets. We’ll say when I’m 67 I’ll be in the lowest tax bracket (10%), so that’s what I’ll have to pay in taxes.

$4,346,210 * .10 = $434,621

That gives a total of $434,621 that I will owe in taxes. Fair enough. Let’s see how the Roth IRA would differ.

Roth IRA

In a Roth IRA, you do not get a tax break on the contribution amount at the time you deposit it, but you also do not pay any taxes on the account total when you withdraw later down the road. Basically meaning you pay taxes now, but then you don’t have to pay them later.

Well, that’s pretty interesting, eh? I don’t have to pay taxes on all that interest, huh? Let’s look at the numbers.

Over that 45 year period, I deposited $247,320. I won’t be able to deduct those deposits from my income as I would be able to with a Traditional IRA, so let’s see how much I’d pay in taxes over that time. And to even give the Traditional a better chance at winning, let’s assume the worst case scenario given today’s tax brackets. We’ll say I’m in the highest tax bracket while I’m contributing (37%), so I’ll be getting hammered pretty hard in taxes.

$247,320 * .37 = $91,508

That gives a total of $91,508 that I will pay in taxes over the 45 year depositing period. Hmmmmm…

Comparison & Conclusion

Okay so, let me say that I don’t claim to be a financial advisor and I don’t know everything there is to know about the subject. However, I’m fairly confident that I have a pretty good idea of how the tax implications of these account types operate. If I am missing something, please please please let me know.

Having said that, why on Earth would anyone consider a Traditional IRA over a Roth IRA? In this very simple example, I would be ultimately be paying almost 5x more in taxes with a Traditional IRA. (And that’s actually the low-end given the tax bracket advantage I gave to help the Traditional IRA). It just seems unbelievable that anyone would make that decision.

In my search for an answer to this question, the only reasoning I found was “Base your decision on your tax bracket now compared to when you withdraw. (Higher now, go Traditional; Lower now, go Roth).” That makes sense in theory, but I don’t really agree with it in practice based on this example I came up with.

The only other thing I saw was a blog post about the optimal way to contribute. A method where you start in a Traditional and then slowly rollover into a Roth. I can understand how that might be the absolute best way, but, in that case, I’m not really sure if the headache of setting that up would be worth it in the end. I’d have to think of another scenario to do the math on that one.

 

Thanks for reading. Let me know your thoughts.

 

*Disclaimer: My opinions in this post are just that – my opinions. I do not manage investments for anyone other than myself and am not responsible for any losses you may incur due to financial posts I have published. Do more research and invest from an educated perspective.